Im very glad Ive discovered this thread as when I started the swap in January this wasnt posted yet, Im mechanically minded but new to cars and electrics in general, any pointer will be much appreciated, thanks! Seen one in the "legends of the autobahn" car show a couple of years ago in Carmel/Monterey. Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? Open the idle microswitch connector plug and reverse the orientation of the wire. I just like to make plan on what and how I am going to do it so when it comes time I know exactly what needs to be done. Is there a worthy replacement for the 190E 2.6. Could any of yall point me in the right direction to d this? The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. The M104.98x introduces a new vacuum nipple. w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. Behind the engine sits a five-speed manual transmission taken from a BMW E46 3.0d and connected via a bell housing from a Mercedes 2.7 CDI. M104.981ish 3.0L Engine Block Moar. Affectionately called the LS-190, the swap looked to be carefully planned out, and rather well executed. Another 500e wagon is born: Silver / Gray | High-Performance Modifications, Imperial Red 500E Wagon Build | High-Performance Modifications, SOLD - 1995 E420 Special Edition, Brilliant Silver/Gray, 113k, $4900 (Tampa, FL) | 400E / E420 Cars for Sale. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. weren't there like 100 sportline LEs built for the USA and 100 for europe? To swap a non V8 w124 into LH V8 spec would require the following parts changing: Wouldn't it be fun to have a 500e wagon? Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support. Maybe a steering unit from a w210? I believe the lotus elan used a turbocharged or supercharged 4 banger which produced nice power. If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. the m103 to m104 is a pretty common swap but the power gain is about 60hp or so. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. Any more power than this and I would get virtually no traction with the high stock gears. I heard the M104 is the same longblock engine as the M103 with the same fuel delivery system, except it is bored out for more displacement, and has DOHC 4 valves per cyllinder instead of SOHC 2 per cyllinder, but is essentially the same engine. M104.98x Motor Swap in a 190E One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. Mrten will lower the power to around 860 whp while . both m104 and 2jz handle 1000hp but the price is real big difference. I believe you are correct that it came with a V6. Power will be greater with an LS swap. 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM Unfortunatly, I have done tons of research, and it all depends on how much you want to spend. Not to mention, but on the 500E, the computers are located under the hood, and the battery is located in the trunk. Ok got it all nearly wrapped up this past week, around 60 hours or so to turn key M104. you really should join the 190 forum (sorry, i don't have a link) as Learn how your comment data is processed. After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. Mrten competes in a special 2003 Mercedes CLK we first covered in 2015. I used 400E brakes, but the nicest is using 95 SL 600 brakes up front and rearThe rear are vented rotors instead of solidI've seen racing slicks lock up with 190Es and no ABS with these brakesBut be prepared for another $1200. Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. His forum name is SG Motorsports. Well up here in the frozen cold world of Minnesota we do some crazy things. All bolt-in, no welding required. Yup, that's John's car. It barely sticks now when floored. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. i'd ditch the 18's and go with 16 or 17's you really don't want to tear apart a good working 2.6 5-spd because they are getting harder and harder to come by. For those unfamiliar with the project, it's powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a . all that accumulated grease and oil. Learn how your comment data is processed. Now that I'm fully woken up and on my third cup of coffee, I also want to mention that the KE-Jet M119 has a completely different computer and electronics setup than the LH-based M119 cars. I saw one real nice one on the web that had a AMG 3.8 in it. M119 upper engine harness - how to rewire temp plug? via Oppositelock. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. Hi i'm looking for some information on swapping my w201 (2.0 automatic) for a manual 2.8 m104. Im no where near having all of the funds to do thisproject withwere probably looking at like a year or two down the road. One thing i forgot to mention, the sway bar and the skid plate needs to be modified but thats easy peasy. Is that a street car? Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. That was later replaced with a turbocharged M104.992 inline-six now making 1000+ horsepower on 8.7:1 compression and MegaSquirt MS3X ECU. engine alone. Learn how your comment data is processed. JavaScript is disabled. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. I'm sure you can find a high mileage 87 TD car and just rebuild the engine and possibly even do a trans swap. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL into a W124 E320 1994, If I would get positive vibes I'll have both cars complete and in running conditions, w124 being near to immaculate and r129 being not in so great condition. JavaScript is disabled. AMG would be nice and or a V8. BMW broke the hearts of many fans worldwide with the debut of the E90 generation of their M3 sports car. He is an electrical wizard. Time laps build of my 190e 3.2 M104engine swap,mercedes,190e,mercedes 190e engine swap m104.942 test,mercedes-benz m104 engine,w201 m111 m104 190e mercedes s. 120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. So my question is, can I just find a used M104 3.2 liter engine and ECU, and toss it into my car? History, Power & Specs of the Engine M104 2.8 L M104.900 3.0 L M104.98x 217 to 228 hp@ 6400 rpm 265Nm (195lbft@ 4600) (with cat) Doesn't the 93 sportline have the switchable differential? Heater core and radiator connections are both identical, M103 vacuum hard line fits well, 124.104 PS Pump has larger fittings 201.103 is direct replacement just swap over rear mount bracket, late model 124 AC discharge lines up with condenser..suction just needs one crimp to combine 103 upper and 104 lower half R R0BB09 E500E Newbie Aug 10, 2019 You think the swap alone ill cost around $10,000 or is that just for all the parts? MBWorld member Gen3Benz had the ambitious plan of stuffing an LS1 V8 motor under the hood of his W201. You must log in or register to reply here. '84 Euro 500SE, '85 Euro 2.3-16, '51 Euro 170S, '97 Jeep Wrangler Sport, '15 G63 AMG. i'll trade you my 87 parts car (engine and trans and body in tact) and a 5spd +shifter assy for you to tear apart and modify for your 2.6 5-spd see everyone wins!! It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. The turbocharger system consists of a TB90 90 mm turbocharger, 60 mm wastegate, 50 mm blowoff valve, Turbobandit intake, 90 mm throttle body, and stainless exhaust manifold. changing the clutch and pulling out m104 engine on my 2.0 W201 190Eswap,320e,e320,w124,m104,m104 3.2,mercedes-benz,plasme cutting,mercedes,,190,190e,. Probably $15k min, but you'd have a torque monster that'd be just as interesting (or more) than a V8 S124. JavaScript is disabled. Makes a fantastic daily driver. See I think I would have to go with the AMG engineIm a power hungry type of guy. Swapped! Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! Using the original 190E A/C manifold hoses not work entirely either. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. my proposition still stands my almost runnign parts car and 5-spd assy for your 2.6 5-spd. Don't tear into the 190e yet, I would like to purchase it from you ! Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. And still, the purists cried, "Heresy!" you have a diamond in the rough. as for fitting in the 104 engine, it is anyone's guess whether the manifold and down pipes will clear the steering box. How to get your M119 5.0L V8 running optimally? In sweden used m103/m104 cost about 250-750 $. Therefore, nothing but good old venerable striahgt 6s. MB 300E 24v Turbo MS3X. The ol' girl has probably done around 8-10k trouble free miles since the swap, until the air pump bearing decided to retire and smoked the belt. Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. It's 80%. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. Include wire from ground at ignition coil bracket. Lengthen and connect the 3 prong connector under fuel distributor for airflow potentiometer (brown/green, blue/black, blue/green), Lengthen and connect the 1 prong coolant temperature sensor (green), Lengthen and connect the 2 prong coolant temperature sensor (brown, green), Lengthen and connect cold start valve wire, Longer CIS 4 prong coolant temperature sensor. What can be done and how much will it cost? This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. Only 100 cars like mine ever imported into the US, really, I don't know, can anyone cite accurate numbers? You are using an out of date browser. Wow, Thanks for all the info. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Most E420's do not have ASR nor heated seats. Mercedes w203 Engine Swap "The Plan" (Pt.1) M271|M104|M111 Ricer Benz 4.27K subscribers Join Subscribe 143 Share 10K views 2 years ago M111 turbo Video link :. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.d-td-class/2408521-e36-amg-project.html?amp=1, nos AMG Bodykits C126 W126 W124 W201 W116 R107. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. 1996 Volvo 855GLT, 1993 MB 190e 2.3 8v, 1998 Subaru Outback SUS, 1991 BMW 525, 1998 MB C230. and the other thing you have a mercedes not a honda or a toyota if you want performance and the tuning spirit get a honda.. these cars arent really geared toward performance and to modify them for it will cost you some change. Let's see .. Palli, you're in the correct forum. What are some 1/4 time and or top speed #'s for people have done these swaps? Install without transmission. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. I have a friend who had a 3.0L from a 300E in his 190 and it was pretty quick too. If you have an E320 sedan and want more power, start shopping for an E420 with ASR and heated seats, rust-free, in your favorite color combo. edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. So one day we decided that that nobody has ever ( that I've seen) built and successfully completed a 500e wagon. Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. An additional option is to have a high pressure diagnostic port installed as well since this port will be lost from switching to the M104 A/C manifold. The Mercedes-Benz M104 is a straight-6 automobile engine produced from 1989 through 1999. Bolt starter to transmission later. I would reduce the length by half a centimeter. Is a swap possible? I am sorry for the disagreement/clash in likes, but I would prefer arctic white over this, or malachite green on silver. The M104.98x now has an updated version of CIS that is not directly compatible with the older version. My typo error corrected (w210 ===>w201). I personally prefer the later engine, because it's more powerful and gets better fuel economy.