The Ultra-Cut decks cant be beaten. You get a lot more mower with the Ariens IKON. People like their Scag commercial mowers and owners really like how well this one bags but to me its just another middle-of-the-road mower. The Ariens IKON XL 42 comes to mind. Run the proper tire inflation or 2 lbs less in the rear and it will ride well. Thanks, I was suggested to get a zero turn with steering wheel but I am hearing those are being discontinued and then another dealer told me to get the lap bars. We have been in touch over the past few years. I have it professionally serviced last July and informed them of the issue. They both cut well and will last you a long time. I know you really like the Toro units. Considering that I dont seem to need the step-handrail, do you still consider the Boulevard my best option? In general, stamped decks cut better fabricated decks are tougher and handle more abuse. Whats your take for a small zero turn for my under 1/2 acre yard? You can get it with the two lap bars but they also offer their Joystick Steering System. The Model R is very easy to work on. I was able to steer it OK, and it handled the sloped areas with no problems. I have a huge (20 acre) yard and do not own a tractor, and dont know if I want one. The ZT 3400 is the industry standard commercial tranny and youll find it on most commercial ZTRs in the $8000-$14,000 price range. The cut was great and the ride was pretty comfortable for a not so even yard. Also I heard ztr tear up your grass, is this user error or do I need a feature to prevent this? I believe youre right though on the 50 in for both. Youll like the Toro and at $1000 less it a great buy. I mow about 3 acres. I not only look at the price, the craftsmanship, and the quality of cut but also the dealer network, ease of warranty service, and parts networks that support the product. If you still want to pick up the mulched leaves then get this sweeper> Agri-Fab 44 in. 5. But its biggest advantage is the mower will hang on slopes because the front wheels steer and both transmissions drive all the time. If you have any questions or problems your local dealer will be glad to help you. PLEASE ADVISE. I just want something that will give me the best cut on slopes. Ive spent a bunch of time reading your site over the last week as Im looking to purchase a new mower. Hi I was wondering what you thought about the new Riding ego zero turn 360 mower battery one Im looking at getting that maybe at the end of the year or next year Right now its a low too expensive for my taste. I have videos up of the Ariens Edge and will have videos up of the IKON XD soon. So I scrapped it, and hired someone to do the mowing. Hi Beverly, Chickens are so much fun! Most components are identical but the decks are slightly different. I would like a bigger deck, at least a 54inch so I can be donestyle points on grass not important. Ariens Edge 42 If you dont want to go through the Home Depot your local Gravely dealer sells the same mower under the Gravely brand. They still convince municipalities to purchase them but the municipalities quickly realize the ZTRs are better for the type of mowing they do. Thanks for the quick reply. By the way, the MX5050 compares to the Gravely ZT X. Do you know of any difference between the ones you get from the dealer and the big box stores? Are you familiar with or have you had experience with this Toro model? Ive pretty much narrowed my choice down to the JD Z355R (maybe the Z375R) or the Toro MX5075 (a bit under 2 acres, somewhat bumpy, with a few hills and some trees and obstacles to dodge). Rating: 1. I have both brands and I use them all the time. That mower should be in the $2700 range and the fact you have to spend an EXTRA $160 for a hitch is ridiculous. The FasTrac is more in line with the mowers we are discussing here though. 2. Cub Cadet has been making ZTRs for just about as long but they didnt really get into the commercial market until 2015. Walk-Behind. Ive seen it cut roadside grass two feet tall cleanly on the first pass. My yard is fairly flat and less than an acre. 48 in deck has a 22hp Kawasaki engine/ 24hp Kawasaki for the 54 in model. Im already beginning to spend some coin having local vendors mow (3x now). Ive been looking at the Ariens Ikon XD 42 which seems well reviewed. This will save a lot of wear and tear on the transmission. The Toro Titan MAX is built to last with a tubular steel frame and IronForged high strength grade 10 gauge steel fabricated deck with a reinforced bull nose. I hate to get rid of it since it runs flawless. There are a several dealers not too far from my location near AA so I will go and see what they are like. That said. Both have dealer support and both have the same sticker price. Id like to stay cost conscious but I am willing to pay more for an exquisite end result. Appreciate it. Do you think ZTRs would handle this? It has a baffling system that cuts the grass clean by lifting them high. Yes, the biggest difference is the fabricated deck. My suggestion is to see what dealers are in your area. At 1350 pounds it weighs 50% more than a similar size residential mower. Its just about commercial grade and only about $800 more. If you want a heavy-duty mower and its the last one you ever want to buy then the ZT HD is a good choice. Cutting Deck I am in need a smoother more comfortable ride that doesnt brake my back every time I mow..Good ideas for a ZTR mower with suspension? Even though the Ultima is twice the cost of the tractor it will win when you look at the real cost of ownership especially for using it commercially. Many smaller commercial owners are using the Patriot and it holds up to 10 acres a day every day use. Toro TITAN 60 in. You can check out my videos of the Toro Timecutter and Ariens IKON XD here: https://www.youtube.com/paulsikkema. That said. 6. Never had a ZTR, but I was initially leaning ZTR (looking at Spartan and Hustler SDX) UNTIL I stumbled on the Bradley Stand on in the same price range! A good dealer will help you find the best mower for you and have the parts and service to help you get years out of your ZTR. I have 15 acres of grass with voles holes/tunnels, berms, bumpy grass and fences. Please tell me what front deck zero turn commercial or semi commercial mower you recommend. Hi Paul, If you get the Toro make sure you get a set of the standard mulching blades. But, Since you have a very rough lawn I recommend that you buy the Titan series with MyRide. Its not the ZTR you are using the wrong equipment for the mowing you have to do. Paul So I am looking at potentially free delivery of the machine to my home. Check it out here: https://homedepot.sjv.io/P00q4N. They have two that I recommend. Hi James, I made a comparison list of the two here: Product comparison. KutKwick ZTRs can handle 45-degree slopes (start at $30,000). The Smart speed is a lever that lets you reduce the maximum forward speed so you are not tempted to push the transmissions too hard when towing and it allows you to go slow when trimming so you dont bang into stuff as much. Im now looking to replace that mower with another last mower. Hi Paulwhat is your opinion on the Walker ZTRs vs the Exmark ZTRs? Hi Larry, In this price range neither Ariens IKON XD is the best. Any insight on the Toro V-twin vs the Kohler V-twin 7000 series? Hi Daron, If you do a lot of towing the Toro TimeCutter is the best choice in that price range. Fab Deck Zero-Turn Mower with MyRide . Great machine! (and may be included). Tractor Supply sells the Bad Boy brand and they have several models that look good but they are kind of high ($4,400 for the "ZT"), and to round it off Toro (model SS4266) has some in my size and budget range. recommendedNo-Spill 1405 2-1/2-Gallon Poly Gas Can. Then decide the best mower for you based on the features you like and how well you like the dealer. The original seat is a good comfortable seat but I want one more conducive to one with back problems. They make small batches and keep the price very affordable. The ZT 3100 is the entry-level commercial tranny. Thanks Paul. Hi Frank, there is only one the Ryobi 38 inch rider. Mike C. Its very comfortable to useand built well. Cub Cadet Ultima ZT1 50. The governor on the Kohler is a little more responsive when mowing tall, heavy grass. Toro Premium Fuel Treatment helps ensure clean, reliable engine performance and protection. The Toros controls are further back than the Country Clipper. Consumer Reports agrees with me on this. Finally, check out my youtube channel. I also like the fact that the Ariens has a center anti-scalp wheel which will help with scalping on my uneven ground. I am looking to purchase a 60 ztr to mow 3 acres of mostly flat yard. 3. Ive been hearing good things about the g5 gator blades but havent found a fit for the new ultima models. They didnt have the optional step and grab bar, but I was able to get on and off by stepping on the deck and using the hand support in front of the left armrest to balance. The offset deck sticks out more on the left of the mower making it very easy to trim around stuff. Do they really ride that much better? I put my leaf clippings in a mulch pile but if you did your property this way I would guess you would have less than 10 bags. I often allow the grass to reach 10. Im looking to spend less than 4000 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Appreciate all the help and insight. Dual hydrostatic transmission. This product has been designed for maximum performance and best-in-class comfort. In reality, they both weigh the same. Decent engine, decent transmissions and built well. This is no small amount, so you have to be sure that you invest your money wisely, both into the machine and into proper maintenance. ), good speed, would like towing capability (limited I suppose), and riding comfort (albeit, reliability is more important to me). They are expensive and Im not sure if the listed price includes installation. The 75746 also comes with the U.S.A.-made Kohler engine. Ive heard nothing good or bad on the Cub Cadet engine. I had no idea where to start looking, but thanks to you Im on top of it now. Both the Toro and Ariens have great cutting fabricated decks. Thanks in advance! Thanks again! These have the better tranny with the ZT-3100 but I feel like I read on your site that for towing a leaf vac maybe even more would be required? Which one do you think would be more durable? Hi Paul, How does the Big Dog Alpha compare to the others you reviewed? Others suggest Hustler, Bad Boy, and Husqvarna. Love the articles. They were also the first to use OHV across the entire line so they were more fuel-efficient and quieter. Bradley Stander 36 (top choice because stander) Trimming with the Model R is unbeatable. Fabricated Deck 24 HP Kohler Pro 7000 Series Engine with Roll Over ProtectionAvailable at, Cub Cadet Ultima ZTX4 60 in. In the past week, I have talked to a few local dealers; Cub Cadet, Toro, and Gravley/Ariens. In addition, some companies want their own exclusive brand so they dont have to price match another retailer. Oh, Im 62, in reasonable shape, dont mind the exercisein fact, kinda keeps the joints lubricated (smile). The solid steel, 7-gauge formed and welded deck with reinforced 3/8 sides features an improved . I noticed right away the Deere appears to have a lighter frame, which I liked, so it weighs less. You helped me purchase my last mower which was a 46 Craftsman Pro and it worked out great for our needs at our last home (hills/very few trees). I really tried to like the Cub. There are two models that are within your budget. Charlie Victor. Cast Iron Cleaner 8"x6" Square Cast Iron Scrubber, Premium Stainless Steel Scrubber with Hanging Ring, Ultra-hygienic Anti-Rust Chainmail Scrubber for Cast Iron Pans. Its only $300 more than the MX5075 but you get a whole lot more mower. Hi Rob, Yes, there is a substantial difference between the Timecutter and HD models. I prefer to by from a dealer for possible future support. I only mulch, and as often the case in the NW , the grass here is damp. If you want to learn more please go over to this post: Number 1, 2, 3, and 5 are good choices for your yard and what you want to do. My personal first choice is always a stand-on but I dont recommend stand-on mowers smaller than 40 inches. It comes in a 42-inch deck model and a 50-inch deck model. Also, Toro mowers have larger caster for cubs with sealed ball bearings compared to John Deere mowers. For example, I like my local Toro Dealer a lot. Hi Jon, Wow! This entry was posted in toro and tagged first, impressions, mower, titan, toro, turn, zero. The Toro fab deck cuts better and the Toro will also pull more but overall the Cub Cadet is one of my top choices for a 42-inch ZTR. They both have the best cut. Hi Paul, It has larger rear wheels than the Toro or Cub Cadet and that gives it better traction. I dont have an issue with the Cub Cadet ZT1 42. Hi Dan, I may ramble on a bit because buying a mower from Costco for a commercial application is a bad idea. I really appreciate your website, your keen insights, and all your help. All three cut very well. A friend says I should get a Kubota that will last the rest of my life. Their lawn care contractor mows with zero turns, but they mostly back down the hill, and drive back up.). We have John Deere, Hustler, Bad Boy, Kubota, Husqvarna, and Grasshopper dealers, as well as stores such as Lowes, Home Depot, and Tractor Supply which carry other brands. Hi Laurrelle, There are very few front deck mowers on the market. Zero turning radius trimming ability. Just not sure I need that much but also dont want to deal with issues after I buy it!! 1. Hi Thomas, The Big Dog Alpha is a Hustler Raptor painted red. I would never mow across the hill horizontally, just up and down vertically. Dont use one from the local hardware store. Also do i need 2 worry about popping one of those front tires with the small stumps i have around? Thanks in advance! Fab 22.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed is over your budget. Check out my article here on the Toro Titan. Ariens Edge 42. It gives you a slightly more even cut. You will like the cut of the John Deere a lot. To get a ZTR heavy enough to hang on that slope you need to be in the $6000 plus range. It has strong transmissions that will last and is one of the best residential mowers for cutting taller grass. What model should i be looking at for a rough and hilly yard? Toro TimeCutter MX6050 60 in. Mowers in the price range are built tough enough to handle a sapling or 2-inch stump without damage but again thats not what they are designed to do. What is your experience with robotic mowers? We have about an acre of lawn with a lot of pine trees, Exmark, Hustler, John Deere and Toro all make standon ZTRs. And with my analytical mind, I go back and forth and change my mind on many of these. Oct 2, 2019 / Bad Boy ZT Elite vs Maverick #3 mower king said: The ZT Elite was our #1 seller in Bad Boys until the Mavericks came out.. The only reviews I can find about the Cub Cadet ZT1 state the vibration is only at low rpms. The rest of the mowers are all great choices but if you have the Walker Model R on your list and your budget can handle it the Model R is the way to go. 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