Makes me feel like plopping down in that corner stool that's open and have one of those roast beef dinners, with custard pie for dessert! My parents loved that place. I dont even know if that old bar is still there..I miss that turtle soup ! So, what cafeterias besides the ones found in hospitals, schools, etc still exist and thrive today? there from late 1984 until mid 1987 when I was transferred to the Cambridge Inn, Evansville, IN. Which gets to me the subject of cafeterias. I think Ill have to be going to this one soon. If that Cambridge Inn (by Target) is the one in Middletown,OH on S. University BlvdI was asst. I do remember York Steak House, there was one in my local mallthere actually is still one location open - in Columbus. does anyone know wher to get good turtle soup and i dont mean mock turtle soup 1. Thank's again donw for all your help.. DON Hey donw.. i enjoyed that second site address you sent to me.. IKEA: Yes, the garish stores synonymous with Sweden and cheap dorm-room furniture also operate honest-to-goodness cafeterias. MCL Cafeteria is rated accordingly in the following categories by Tripadvisor travelers: 4485 Far Hills Ave, Dayton, OH 45429-2405. We know that Geoffrey's political affiliation is unknown; ethnicity . Remember the Westward Ho salad dressings (French, Italian, 1,000 Island and Blue Cheese (was extra) and the roast beef dinners and potatoes/carrots/onions as a side and mushrooms (I think they were .25 extra) and the pies! right on the corner of w3rd st.across from the big courts bldg. Thanks my friend.. Where did you get that picture ?. The food was average for a cafeteria style restaurant. https://www.facebook.com/133871669991219/posts/3686129631432054/?d=n WOW MAN !!!.. From simple makeovers to complete renovations of all sized spaces, our skilled Interior Designers promise to exceed your expectations. If you want a meal that tastes like Grandma made it, then this is the placefor you. That man seated to the left at the end of the counter is my father. SACKSTEDER, Thomas J. I was 15 when I worked at Culps in the Arcade. Tuesday is chicken pot pie day so I try to go then but every day is special. https://www.facebook.com/133871669991219/posts/3686129631432054/?d=n. It has a great variety and the people are so nice. None of us will be back there again. he would have people on his show that owned bars or restaurants in the area i owned a pizza restaurant and got on there one night. We like the desserts, especially when there are sugar free choices. Prices are really good too. A good clean place to see the food before you order it. They are and were great people..The pizza hasnt changed at all man. Updated: Dec 22, 2016 by Kevin Williams | 14 Comments. One was located in the Florence Mall. It was so wonderful to read your article on The Cambridge Inn in Centerville Ohio. Makes you feel special when eating here. Her name was Sadie. Holy cow, this building has been sitting, frozen in time for over 30 years? Nothing tasted bad, most was very good. I cant remember it's location in kettering.. It was out of this world real tender, juicy and plenty of onions. My old haunt had actually become a haunt. They had the 50's motiff going. I worked there for about a year until I left the company to come back to Cincy to attend school to be a medical asst. What we like about cafeterias is paying for what you get, not a buffet price where you feellike you paid a lot, so you need to pack in everything you can. for you. I really can't think of an item I haven't liked and I've been going to MCL for years.More, We had lunch there in April 2018. Ok, just one more thing: my sister said that the women's bathroom was really filthy. There may a stray still in business and believe it is in Carillon Park.More of a restaurant then a cafeteria. And they have the best fried chicken!!!! Hi Kevin. It closed its doors sometime in the late 80s, but the building is still there. Merry Christmas to you and your family. We entered, selected different types of stuffed chicken, potatoes, vegetables, rolls, two slices of pie, etc. And they have the best fried chicken!!!! I was her favorite place in Dayton. I really can't think of an item I haven't liked and I've been going to MCL for years. This review is the subjective opinion of a Tripadvisor member and not of Tripadvisor LLC. Her note brought back a flood of memories of childhood meals. How cool, Cathy, small world, you for sure carved some inside rounds for me because the years I went to the Cambridge Inn in Middletown the most were during the mid-80s with my grandparents, so no doubt we were there at the same time. So many wonderful choices to delight the tastebuds. The service was top notch. Needless to say, we took leftovers home for the night. Theyhad chicken stuffed with stuffing and strawberry shortcake. Does anyone know?.. "Here are a few long-gone places that I miss: 1) Waldo Peppers on National Road in Vandalia across from the airport. I find the shorter carry-out line convenient on days I want to just run in and grab something tasty to take home for my dinner. There were several in the Cincy/NKy area. There are so many choices that it is hard to hold back from getting a lucious desert when you also picked out a huge sweet bunto go with your meal. I loved my stuffed chicken and had a couple of bites of my wife's and thought it also excellent. When I worked at a store in the mall, I would go to York Steak House on my lunch break and get their sirloin tips with sauted onions and mushrooms. Yes, Cathy, that was the onewhen did you work there? First of all. I will definitely be back in before the holidays! Always good food - great for a quick meal - excellent selections. But then I noticed the sign by the driveway "Nightmare Manor." I am wondering, though, whether you are mixing up Bill Knapps on the kids menu Bill Knapps, had a kids menu that was a Giraffe, Elephant and, I think, a Zebra. Years ago there were many cafeterias in the area. News Death NoticeEVANS, Mary Elizabeth [Wenninger] age 99, went gently to God, on Wednesday, August 24, 2011. The liver is very moist and tender and taste outstanding.More, I have never paid too much attention to the cleanliness of this location. They werent directly over the food but close enough that if the airconditioner was on , would that dirt be blown onto the food. One word: grandparents. This is the version of our website addressed to speakers of English in the United States. more. It is a fantastic store full of ideas and design tips from traditional to modern styles. Can anyone expound on this? I just cant.. That neighborhood was left high and dry for those who didn't drive. Small bowl of mashed potatoes $3.19 What could possibly be inside after 30 years? I believe my favorites were the Elephant and Giraffe but can not remember what they consisted of? You grab a tray, stick it on one of the metal tracks, move it along and grab and go (salads, desserts,a roll) and then you get to the entre section where several steaming hot selections await you. It was goodMore, I took my grandsons to MCL for lunch and as they say, their eyes were bigger than their stomachs! Beth, Molly, Nicole, Kim, Nikki, and Nina can help change and upgrade your home or commercial space to your style! Required fields are marked *. Yes it would be great to tour it once again. MCL Cafeteria. Yup this is on my list of go backs.More. he also told me how that little store on main st financed two families.. mostly at a slice at a time.. and that his uncle, that little guy, was quite the ladies man..( apparently my sis wasnt the only one.). Many friendships and memories made during my Cambridge years. WOW!!!.. small bowl of Macaroni & Cheese $3.59 The benefit of this sort of place is--you can get a good restaurant-style meal, carved beef, chops, chicken and such, and be sitting at your table eating less than ten minutes from when you walk into the place. Wait time to be served was good as the line was kept moving without feeling like we were being rushed. The little italian guy the skinny one, one of the owners, really like my sister.. she was kinda tall and heavy set, real dark long hair, real pretty..healthy looking, if you know what i mean?. We only went there today because we used to take mom there long time ago. Cambridge Inns all had this distinctive faux-English dcor with brick facades bordered by wooden beams. Oh, the pie. Your email address will not be published. Thought it was a bad idea as the big seniors complex was right there and left old timers with no place to go get a hot meal. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, Keven. SOFT PRETZELS were my fav's.. they were made on xenia ave.. we used to walk to smales from holy trinity school at e.fifth and bainbridge and buy bags of them, then take them home. When we travel, it's hard to squeeze in time for some fancy restaurants, where it might take 85 minutes or so to get served and eat--even without dessert. Not really someplace I would have gone but my group was there. And one of their favorite restaurant formats was the cafeteria (in hindsight, Im not sure why, since carrying a tray was difficult for grandma). PICCADILLY CAFETERIAS: This is a cafeteria chain found primarily in the South. I really miss the old downtown my friendAnd that is how i will always remember them.. don. I love Sacksteders! I went with the Fried Chicken, Barbecued BakedBeans, Gouda Macaroni and Cheese, fresh baked Roll and the dessert was Homemade Chocolate Cheesecake . Kevin in reference to the cafeterias.I have eaten at picadillys theyre just sort of o.k. Its now a Recreation/senior center. He was so camera shy anyway.. My voice: Kevin, are you crazy?, Wistfully, I let go of the door and it clicked shut. copson you mentioned bob shreve. You tell the worker which one you want, they pile it onto your plate, hand . It creaked open. and found it to be very dried out like it had been sitting out to long. Worked for Danners Imc (parent company of Cambridge Inn) for almost 10 years. :) Hope you had a great Christmas! Are the prices at this restaurant mid-range / moderate? They featured a very wide variety of entrees and other items and while it wasn't cheap, it wasn't expensive either. Thompson/Mike Sarmir on cleanup. manager there for about 3 years. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Their pies are homemade and really good. It may be a 35 mile drive to get here but once I get here I know that I will be in Liver Heaven. You tell the worker which one you want, they pile it onto your plate, hand it to you and you move on. I remember the Carillon had great custard. The area is super ran down now, almost a ghetto to be honest. You sit at regular tables with real silverware and real glasses. Friendly staff and managers that welcomed first timers. I've heard good things about them, but haven't been to one. Hotels near National Museum of the US Air Force, Hotels near Boonshoft Museum of Discovery. Jun 27, 2012. John Ness cookin mornings, Dave at night. Scratch that. You grab a tray, stick it on one of the metal tracks, move it along and grab and go (salads, desserts,a roll) and then you get to the entre section where several steaming hot selections await you. MCL: This is a chain of about 20 cafeterias in the Midwest. Mom likes chicken livers, and MCL has them on Mondays. I went today because of the daily special of Liver and Onions. When we travel, it's hard to squeeze in time for some fancy restaurants, where it might take 85 minutes or so to get served and eat--even without dessert. I guess another plus to the cafeteria is that it is a very efficient food delivery system, taking the sit-down experience and compressing it. No perusing a menu. Matt Martin/Steve Sarmir on pots and pans. CAMBRIDGE INN: The Cambridge Inn was never an inn, it was a small chain of cafeterias.And when I think my grandparents, I can't really think of them without thinking of this cafeteria. It sort of fits your category because it was also done cafeteria style. olds88 & copson i think your right about where culps was and also where davids was. he was in a picture of the flying pizza on n.main street downtown when it first opened. Its also in a different place than it use to be at the Hyde Park Plaza. Remember him?. Made me feel very comfy. There was one in North College Hill (Cincinnati) that is now Frickers Sports Bar/Grill. Stuffed chicken breast is usually available evert day and Chicken Parmesan is very good. Sacksteders is a wonderful place to go for any home decorating need. I noticed that there was considerable amounts of dirt on the overhead sprinklers. I remember thinking it was a very cool looking building when they built it. I hated it. They were the best I'd ever had in my life. I downloaded that picture man and printed it out.. and i'm going to give it to my sister.. had chicken stuffed with stuffing and strawberry shortcake. 48 reviews #90 of 418 Restaurants in Dayton $$ - $$$ American. As an adult, I still recall the meanest "boss" I have ever worked for. Tripadvisor performs checks on reviews. Kinzeler in the dishroom. Looks kind of creepy. Second, going in won't bring back your childhood memories, the mashed potatoes, the pie, your grandparents. Otherwise known as "Chef Thomas", was born in Daton, Ohio on December 7, 1959. I would describe it as a good Sunday-dinner. From simple makeovers to complete renovations of all sized spaces, our skilled Interior Designers promise to exceed your expectations. I did not know there was a Cambridge Inn in Hyde Park (although I am sure my grandparents were well-aware)..THere is a Cambridge Inn in Centerville outside of Dayton that I think is a Chinese restaurant now but some of the old architecture of the CI is visible, but the Middletown one just sits vacant and sad-looking, but a comforting reminder of my childhood! The cashier overcharged me for the dark meat chicken (um legs and thighs are dark meat not light) and it wasn't quite as done as I like my chicken to be. Theres still a cafeteria up in Kettering called the MCL and it is pricey and not of the quality that I remember from the others. or maybe had a court date. Always a delightful experience when I visit their showroom. I loved my stuffed chicken and had a couple of bites of my wife's and thought it also excellent. Oh the stories that could be told of all of those places over the years. Meet the team. Vito Gasettas was moved to dorothy lane from brown st. when rt. Hi, my name is Kevin Williams and I am owner of Oasis Newsfeatures and editor of The Amish Cook newspaper column. Conveniently Located in Cincinnati & New Trenton. I decided to get out of my car for a minute and look around. Hello Kevin, Your email address will not be published. I so hope you see this post !!.. Any Lubys fans among our readers? to go with your meal. There it was. The service was top notch. Ham & Potato Casserole For a Crowd - Plus Other Ham Recipes! Geoffrey Sacksteder is 36 years old and was born on 09/09/1986. We ate enough to last for hours and were out of the place about 50 minutes after we walked in.More, What a great place. I go just to satisfy her taste. Do you remember the clack?. Portion is generous and side chouces are nicely varied. You are correct, was definitely a different time and era. He was native of Dayton, OH. We ate enough to last for hours and were out of the place about 50 minutes after we walked in. I did my management training at the Centerville CI. They cooked the vegetables to mush, for one thing. But again, Holy Cow, 30 years???? The priest wouldnt let him in to give her a ticket.. he found her later when he went into culps for lunch.. she was waitressing, he never gave her the ticket, and, the rest is history. I took that photo of Culps in the Arcade in 1969. The building looked unchanged from my childhood. Nothing tasted bad, most was very good. I didn't even know we had an MCL in this area .. when i was little we went to the one in Richmond Indiana regularly. Thanks again for bringing back some wonderful childhood memories!!! None of us will be back there again. Ill occasionally throw in stories of my travels, journalism adventures (Im a Pulitzer prize-nominated journalist), fascination with grocery stores and Kmarts, and much more! He lived at the gibbons motel in the arcade when he went on the police dept in 1948. Any Amish365'ers been? Couldnt begin to tell you how many inside rounds (road beef) I carved during those years. conditioner was on , would that dirt be blown onto the food. Ah, I love the Cambridge Inn memories..of which I have many. I find the shorter carry-out line convenient on days I want to just run in and grab something tasty to take home for my dinner. The CI in Evansville, IN is a Mexican restaurant. I have my eye on a chest of drawers and I may have to break down and just simply GET IT for myselfthe design ideas are always trendy and up to date with a touch of perfection. He was a dayton police officer.. Are you sure you want to delete this answer? Beth, Molly, Nicole, Kim, Nikki, and Nina can help change and upgrade your home or commercial space to your style! Marionberry Pie $4.09 We rank these hotels, restaurants, and attractions by balancing reviews from our members with how close they are to this location. I never did eat at the Cambridge Inn. Need I say more? Tibby workin the front. Let it go.". Anyone remember Vito's on Dorothy lane in Kettering? Looks like the Cambridge Inn had at least at one time had a brief life as a haunted house. But the one restaurant format that seems to get no respect these days is the cafeteria. Id do weekly bookkeeping or help fill in needed hours part time. You go to the buffet line and imagine what you want. If I could purchase everything idea they have, I certainly would! It's a great cafeteria. Makes you feel special when eating here. The other party with me got the Rueben sandwichand found it to be very dried out like it had been sitting out to long.More. Is the site going to get it? and about baumers my best friend worked at a barber shop next door and i remember going to baumers for the best turtle soup i ever had. I ended up helping managers at the Hyde Park and North College Hill Cambridge Inns while I was attending school. Both places have kept the original building shell but have painted the brick. Need I say more? I love their fried chicken, Harvard beets, mashed potatoes. The door clicked shutand I climbed into my car, the smell of mashed potatoes lingering in my mind long after I left. Home cooking!" Paul. Son of Raymond J. Sacksteder and Elizabeth Ann Kidder, brother to five sis-ters; Ann, Susan . I let it go. I was asst, mgr. Christina, Julie, and Kelly on salads. 3 pieces of broccoli $3.89 Sometimes Geoffrey goes by various nicknames including Geoffrey Thomas Sacksteder and Geoffrey T Sacksteder. I also remember over at Brientenstraters a big grocery and that also left. Yet, if I were to somehow venture inside, I could probably move through it blind-folded I knew the way so well. When dad was in uniform near the safety bldg one morning he caught her jaywalking near sacred heart church and he tried to stop her, and she ran from him..she ran into the church. Entdecke GREENVILLE, OHIO: IGA STORE (D. TEASFORD) (1934-43 MIDGET MATCHBOOK COVER) - F18 in groer Auswahl Vergleichen Angebote und Preise Online kaufen bei eBay Kostenlose Lieferung fr viele Artikel! We wound up not eating some of our pecan pie, so they brought us a box to take it home--another plus over buffet style. Basically, a cafeteria is the school lunch line in a grown-up setting. The food here is always like homemade! and do you know what year it was taken?.I'm trying to figure that out by the ladies style of clothing maybe late 50's early 60's maybe?. 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