So not only did I let my baby fall off the trampoline, but then I blamed my 5yr old and made him feel bad about it. good thing I still have some extra padding there . They postulate that stairway injuries are less severe than free falls of the same total distance and consist of a mild-moderately severe impact followed by a series of low-energy falls. 2022. Most falls will not cause serious injury. Never give your child aspirin, which can lead to a rare but serious condition called Reye's syndrome. Just wanted to share my experience here in case this happens to anyone else and this can be searched up. What to Expect supports Group Black and its mission to increase greater diversity in media voices and media ownership. I'm very paranoid about it and I would feel SO guilty if anything happened to him. That's heartbreaking, I'm so glad to hear baby is fine! A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/falls [Accessed May 2022]. Plunkett (2001) examined more than 75,000 cases from the US Consumer Product Safety Commission and revealed 18 fall-related head injury deaths over an 11-year period. She has a bust lip which is now healing nicely, but DH says he keeps replaying it in his head over and over! He was fine after 30 seconds of crying, but I felt (and feel) AWFUL. So far he's completely fine and only cried for about 30 seconds. I was in disbelief people can be that horrible and take off knowing a mom was screaming in tears checking on her child. It's a long way down (8 steps) and in his walker it'd sure do some serious harm. Yesterday 07:14. I've been trying to keep myself busy to avoid thinking about it but I've caught myself replaying it in my head too often since it happend. He was fine after 30 seconds of crying, but I felt (and feel) AWFUL. i am taking each step soooo slowly now. I'm so glad your baby is okay. Try not to beat yourself up. Babies (birth - 12 months) Baby fell off the bed anybody?? 2011. I fell off a cliff in the South of France when I was 18 months old! I ran up the stairs and there he was lying on the floor. Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. If your child has anything more than a light bump and/or is under one year old, call your child's doctor. I'm the same when we first got her to hospital I thought I was gonna have social services after me. It was an accident. Just promise yourself you'll always shut the gate from now on and you'll feel a lot better! World Health Organization. Babies (birth - 12 months) Baby fell off sofa Babies (birth - 12 months) Baby fell off the bed anybody?? Leventhal (1993) found that it is common for children to suffer fractures from falls (60 percent of children in their study sustained a fracture from falls). Three of the children who died from a fall of 1-4 feet also had associated injuries such as bruising to the head and trunk, old fractures and retinal hemorrhages. We're back home now and she's tucked up in bed, thankfully she's fine with just a grazed eye and a bumped head. I wouldve much rather I hurt myself and was able to spare him. I also fell down the stairs on Saturday and hurt my tailbone pretty bad. Don't feel bad! https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/128/3/455/30717/Pediatric-Injuries-Attributable-to-Falls-From?redirectedFrom=PDF [Accessed May 2022], MedlinePlus. 2019. Head injuries. and we had to go to casualty but he was fine! Delivered vaginal w/ nitrous, ask me anything! But thats how they learn and explore. I was carrying a laundry bag down the stairs and somehow lost my footing. No hate please I feel horrific and can't stop crying. Don't let the guilt ruin your special moments with your baby. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. It could have been so much worse. No mom in the world can keep an eye on a busy toddler every second of the day when they have a house to keep up, meals to cook, laundry to do, etc., etc., much less keep track of what an older child is opening and closing behind them as they both move at the speed of light. I took my eyes off her for a second and it happened that fast. I don't remember going down the stairs but I got to him quickly and scooped him up and he stopped crying within 30 seconds and then went back to playing. The guy rear ended us and TOOK OFF! 2022. he fell off the couch straight onto his head. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. The #1 app for tracking pregnancy and baby growth. Charlotte fell out of her highchair a couple of weeks back straight onto the kitchen floor. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. I have to get an MRI tomorrow Im 14w6d and just fell down a flight of stairs. When it rains it pours, right? Accidents happen, glad you all are okay! Praying for your little girl to heal quickly and praying for peace and comfort for you. Baby fell down the stairs. Those patients who struck concrete were also more likely to have a skull fracture (not significant). Glad your little guy is okay! Rushing to your child's side every time they stumble will wear you out and make your child overly cautious. Glad your LO is ok. My lo didn't fall down a whole flight of stairs, only a couple. Oh, my LO has fallen off the bed a couple of times. She hollered for a while then seemed okay but it turned out she actually had a fractured bone in her foot which had to be plastered. when baby was about 3 months old I fell down the stairs and also braced myself with my forearm to prevent baby from getting hurt. i was freeeeaking out. 9 month old screaming all hours at night!! Falls from greater heights can result in more injury. It happens and what youre feeling is valid. A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. American Academy of Pediatrics. Although a bump on the head can look scary, it doesn't necessarily mean that your child is seriously hurt. Thanks for all of the support. accidents happen she will be okay. Babies (birth - 12 months) Just 8 months old and climbing the stairs!! It hasn't phased him one bit though. Read the article summaries about stairway falls. We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. Any of these symptoms need to be monitored very closely. The worry here is that . Slipped on my stairs. This child is made of steal, Honestly don't feel guilty, accidents happen with babies and toddlers and it sadly probably won't be the last time. A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. American Academy of Pediatrics. I felt like such a bad mum so I know what you are going through but my OH stayed home and took her to the hosp with me and just sat me down (in the middle of my crying my eyes out) and just said that this stuff happens all the time and just be thankful that nothing is wrong and use this as a learning curve. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. If they fell on their head and have anything more than a minor bump - or if your child isn't acting normally - call their doctor immediately or take them to the emergency room. Baby fell off sofa! The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. When it rains it pours, right? heck I still feel bad when I see the scar on her head. Haha. He did not get bumped big cried really hard out of being startled and my reaction I think. Read the article summaries about fatal falls. 20062023 BabyCenter, LLC, a Ziff Davis company. The #1 app for tracking pregnancy and baby growth. Reiber comes to the same conclusion as Chadwick above, that cases with extensive injury and a history of a short fall may not have an accurate history. Your LO already forgot. Literally just made a post about my baby falling outside on concrete today. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. Breastfeeding: the trick to a comfy latch. I felt like I was going to throw up because I watched it like slow motion unable to move fast enough to grab him (heavily pregnant with our second). . Put an ice pack on the bump on his head. My oldest fell down the stairs when he was 1. Falls prevention tips. There was also one clavicular fracture, one radius / ulna fracture and one cervical spine fracture. It's a horrid feeling when it happens though. Create an account or log in to participate. But I rang my mum feeling I would never forget what had just happened and I would be feeling sick about it forever, she told me about my brother flinging himself out of his bouncer and onto the floor at 6 months old and slowly you get over it, he's 8 now and would never remember! She marked up her face a bit but fortunately no egg bumps or anything, there was no red marks on any other part of her body other then her face, not even on the back of the head thank god after crying for a few minutes she calmed down and seemed 100% fine I did take her to the doctors the next day But Im still feeling down about it I cant believe what happened to my baby. She was discharged that night. Accidents happen and it doesn't make you a bad mum! I actually did this as a baby as well. she cried very hard for a minute, I think possibly because I screamed and cried. She is okay. My son fell off our bed last week, and I felt so bad! Luckily my bed is a platform bed so its not lifted off the ground and our floor is carpet. 2021. I would err on the side of caution and go to A&E - not just because of the bumps to the head but to ensure that no fractures have occurred in soft bones. She is still a mommas girl. My almost 8 month old started crawling last week and I've been trying to be so careful about shutting the door to our basement but today I messed up and she ended up falling down a flight of stairs. U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. BabyCenter's editorial team is committed to providing the most helpful and trustworthy pregnancy and parenting information in the world. Chiaviellos series had a higher frequency of significantly injured children (7 percent had skull fractures vs. 2 percent in the Joffe series, and one child had a subdural hematoma). Offering you some empathy and also some wisdom to keep an eye on things. I am afraid I won't be able to afford my baby, Symptmes de grossesse ne jamais ignorer, Moyens naturels pour dclencher l'accouchement. https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/toddler/Pages/Safety-for-Your-Child-1-to-2-Years.aspx [Accessed May 2022], AAP. Minor bumps and bruises, on the other hand, are an unavoidable part of developing motor skills and independence. American Academy of Pediatrics. I also fell down the stairs on Saturday and hurt my tailbone pretty bad. My friend's child came round age 1.5 and was much better on the stairs than mine at 3. We always keep the door shut but sometimes it gets left open by accident. Im glad you kept her from hitting her head! She will be fine, just remember it wasn't your fault, things happen like this all the time xxx, Poor baby! We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. My LO fell from her car seat from the top of a shopping cart onto the concrete parking lot when she was 3 months old. He did not report if non-accidental trauma was considered and excluded. Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). Hopefully she didn't get to jostled, but I know it startled her. babies are resilient to falls and I promise this will not be the last time she falls. What to Do If Your Baby Bumps Their Head Your Baby Falls Down There are many reasons why a baby might fall down, and may vary depending on their age and circumstances. Pediatrics 107(5):1188-91. https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/107/5/1188/66235/Falls-From-Heights-Windows-Roofs-and-Balconies [Accessed May 2022], Harris, V. et. We are so lucky. Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. Unfortunately accidents happen and there are bound to be more bumps and scrapes to come! Tarantino (1999) studied 167 patients 10 months of age or younger who sustained vertical falls 4 feet or lower. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. It may be difficult to differentiate abusive head trauma from accidental injury since accidental falls are common occurrences in infants and children. My 8m old pulled our blanket ladder down on him yesterday and i felt awful. :) cheer up! :(. I went to see our GP straight away, without an appointment and firstly they said they couldn't see us until afternoon. Having this online community really helps right now. My daughters 10 months and is taking steps/falling over constantly hurting herself never seems to faze her, strong little beings! Oops I didn't realise you could let them sleep, sorry ignore my post. But he was totally fine after cuddles from mummy. Head injury first aid. So if you're a bad mother what does that make my parents! Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). We believe you should always know the source of the information you're seeing. It caught on a stone and I went flying over the pram. I would take your Doc's word for it. think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. Im thankful that shes here on this earth with me to cry and play and wake in the middle of the night and want me to carry her all day and all of the other things that come with having a baby. I'm so glad he's okay now, I feel sick to my stomach but it's made me feel better knowing someone else has been through it. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. It doesn't make you a bad mum! If your child looks okay to you and seems to be acting normally: Chances are the fall didn't cause serious injury. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. ! Which is only funny because he would never push the baby. This morningmy beautiful, sweet 11-month-old fell down an entire flight of stairs. Whatever you are going through, you are not alone. I talked to the pediatricians office and they said she sounds like she is fine but told me what to look out for. My niece fell off her bed at around the same age. Just remember - you're human not perfect! Be thankful, but keep an eye on your child. All four girls went to the dentist to get their teeth cleaned.\r \r Welcome to the Tannerites. Seventy four percent of patients in the minor fall category were later found to be victims of non-accidental trauma. Canyon has been going up and down the stairs for the last month or two with no problems but today he fell all the way from the top and hit the tile floor with face leaving a huge black eye!! In these series, 10 percent (Smith) and 15 percent (Chiaviello) of patients suffered skull fractures and 1 percent and 8 percent, respectively, had intracranial bleeds. My LO fell off my bed at 6 months - not just a topple over, she went flying off at 100 miles per hour and landed with a bump that was heard clearly in the room below. So sorry this has happened to other people too. And, as everyone said, little ones bounce quite well so I'm sure she'll be ok. A brand new 2021 car we only had for 2 weeks. he had a little cut on his head. They all found that young children do not typically sustain severe or life-threatening injuries from falls. You're a wonderful and caring Mama - *** just happens sometimes! Ok I had a reallly horrible experience too, I put my LO in a floatie in the swimming pool, not toally in, just sitting on top and I heard the door bell go (well so I thought), I left him for literally seconds as I realised no one was there and then I heard a splash as he went in, I have never moved so fast in all my life, to see him sinking was the most awful thing ever. Well everything was Baby Boy is here! I tried to break my fall with my hand but landed on my tailbone and back and fell down about 6-7 stairs and even peed Im scheduled to get induced tomorrow night but I havent left my bed today because I caught the stomach flu from my girls. Baby Day was due 1/21 but mild contractions started around 4:30am 1/19. My husband was working late so I had both our then 2 mo April DS and 20 mo DD by myself for bedtime. We post daily vlogs!\r \r We are a family of 9 (YES, 7 kids) who love to experience the best of life through . Urgent help! The greater the height of the fall, the more common it was to incur a skull fracture. we literally just brought him home from the NICU. You are 100% NOT a bad mom. Undated. Three children in this series suffered a depressed skull fracture from falling against surfaces. Also, i fell off the stairs with him in my hands when he was just two months old. He was quiet until we got home. Baby fell down the stairs. 2 nights ago I had a really bad headache so went for a sleep while DH fed the children. Xx, Kids that age seem to be made of rubber and just bounce i remember one of mine at about 10 or 11 months old falling off the sofa were she was lieing having her nap she smacked her head on the table leg and just got up as though nothinhg had happened this was all in the time it took to go to the loo, No it was an Argos gate! If you think that your child is bothered by the bump, you can give them the appropriate dose of acetaminophen or ibuprofen. It was about 12/13 carpet flooring she landed right at the bottom. It really is absolutely terrifying! Mayr
Hang in there mama, youre doing great! You'll want to make sure that your child: Falls can be serious, but the good news is that baby and toddler bones are soft, so they don't fracture as easily as those of an older child. This week my July baby fell off the trampoline, scraped his head on the tree log the older kids use as a step to get up and landed on the ground hysterical. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. Keep your child under adult supervision, away from ungated stairs or unguarded windows, and maintain their play area free of sharp edges, and other hazards. Magic parent strength kicked in and I was able to stop her head from slamming into the wood floor by inches. Had blood vessels popped in one eye. Prevention of falls in children. She's been an angel today. Me on the other hand was a shaking, blubbering mess and my incision killed from the jolt as did my knees from the impact. The children in these series are older, which limits the applicability to infants. 3 week old choking on his saliva when put down. Use of this site is subject to our terms of use and privacy policy. Read the article summaries about free /vertical falls. Don't beat yourself up too much!! I know accidents happen but this is a way scarier accident than I ever foresaw us having. Fifteen percent of patients suffered significant injuries including seven long bone fractures and 12 linear skull fractures. I am sure they will both be fine! I fell down a flight of stairs as an infant, with my grandmother. The mean age of patients was about 9 months. Anonymous. When your child does take a minor tumble, try not to overreact. Joffe also noted that there was no correlation between severity of injury and number of steps fallen down. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. I've never bothered with gates, I just close the doors that block off the stairs have never trusted them as my cousin got a leg stuck through one at the top of the stairs when he was only 2 bless him xx. Barlow (1983) and Roshkow (1990) both studied falls from heights, again in older patients. I knew better! All of the sudden I heard a thump and crying. Everything was ok aside from the fracture (no bleed); no seizures. no mark nothing and acted totally normal within 5 minutes if that!! Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. He found that 18 children died from a fall <3 feet; 18 children died from a fall >3 feet but <4 stories and eight children died from a fall >5 stories. He's absolutely fine now but I still feel so guilty. It is therefore important to become familiar with the published literature regarding the severity and type of injuries sustained from children who have fallen from various objects and heights. Combining these series produces 368 children who fell about 2-4 feet and had no or minor injuries (total of three skull fractures; one clavicle fracture). Fractures side effects In a 2013 study of fractures caused by falls down stairs,. You took the right steps in calling your pediatrician to make sure you didnt need to get her looked at and now you are armed with the knowledge of what to look for next time. She was totally fine and was her normal happy self like an hour later. 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