All Im saying is that whether or not TLR could have been hemalurgically spiked depends entirely upon whether or not the rebels stabbing him with spears only stabbed hard enough to just barely get the metal heads in, which would technically allow for hemalurgical side effects, or if the rebels stabbed him with enough force that the spear head went ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIM and stuck out the other side of his body, leaving him with only the wooden haft still inside of him and the metal heads not touching his insides. The spike is not coming with you when your Cognitive separates from the body. The Southern Scadrians had existed with no interaction with the Final Empire, but when Harmony changed the world, they could not adapt and began to die off. Except if you remove the spike, you leave the alteration because the Identity is not matched. TheManKnownAsHoid, August 2, 2018. But you can't kill me, Lord Tyrant. Sixteen months later, when Kelsier was unable to get his weekly atium geode, Mare gave Kelsier hers, claiming that she had found two that week. Kelsier offered to let her to join his crew. After his apprentice Vin kills the Lord Ruler, OreSeur lays Kelsier's bones to rest. Proceed with caution if you have not read this book. Why would it have to be relevant to the current or future cosmere? [37], Ah, but being an annoyance is something that I am very good at. His most prominent trademark is the multitude of long scars running down his arms, a memento of time spent in the Pits of Hathsin. He accomplished a lot, and died facing down the Lord Ruler himself. Before leaving them, he created the Bands of Mourning, a collection of unsealed metalminds forged together and containing all kinds of attributes in extremely large quantities. Kelsier was kind of Ruins agent on Scadrial while he was there, even though he didnt actually have a spike. [8] He also hates how much Kelsier goes against his Intent, bringing about massive societal change in how he brought about the death of the Lord Ruler, and played into Ruin's plans. We know that Waxs sister, Telsin, is a high-ranking member and that she escaped alive at the end of TheBands of Mourning. Prior to one of the executions, Kelsier attacks the carriages transporting the victims and frees them, killing a Steel Inquisitor in the process. A bit obsessive, a bit anxious, and a whole lot amazing, Steris uses her neurodivergencies to her (and Waxs) advantage by plotting out every eventuality and creating detailed plans to deal with any situation. He also has medallions which grant him Allomantic abilities. (Remember how I mentioned all those spoilers? While difficult, it is possible to obtain atium and lerasium from ettmetal, but not through mechanical means. The roast is strong with this post. Marsh decided to give Wax a book explaining Hemalurgy because he believed Wax was doing Kelsier's work. I am not trying to shut this theory down as you would say, I am trying to understand the theory, because as you said, I want to discuss it,and your post telling people who dont understand what you are saying because you are so unclear are even more uneccesary, aggressive, and frankly very rude. Vin paused at her thoughts. 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He claims that he smiles solely because laughter is the only thing that the Lord Ruler cannot take from him. [45] They question him on Preservation's appearance after learning he has spoken directly with the Shard, and then continue their discussion onto other topics. Its relevant to the past in the cosmere. It's not a sad death. In this novella covering the events of the first Mistborn trilogy, Kelsier is trapped in the Well of Ascension following his death. He is the central figure of the religion known as the Church of the Survivor . [2] He is capable of using them with a high degree of precision to control the momentum and rotation of dozens of pieces of metal simultaneously. Kelsier is a half-skaa Mistborn from Scadrial. , Marsh is Kelsiers older brother. He is stern and intense, but always smiling; anoth er act of rebellion against the Lord Ruler's oppression. The Bands of Mourning follows our group of heroes as they begin a quest to find the titular Bands of Mourning, a legendary and extraordinarily powerful artifact. See the original version. Kelsier considers guns to be inelegant weapons. Kelsier often kills nobility and the skaa who serve them with absolutely no qualms. Realizing Vin didn't trust him, he told her that in his crew they trust each other. lets delve into that a little more deeply, shall we? No, Kelsier was not fond of Marsh. Its not that difficult. When Lord Tresting attempted to rape a skaa girl, Kelsier saved her, killing Tresting and all his servants and soldiers in the process. He was the leader. The Southern Scadrians have also used the metal in primer cubes which can somehow regulate ettmetals effects with the flip of a switch. Theres always another secret, but well have answers to some as of November 15th! Without a Physical aspect, his powers failed. He met with Yeden the leader of the skaa rebellion and made Yeden hire him to bring down the Final Empire. Gave Entrone: An amateur archeologist who insulted Steris at a party. Why would it have to be relevant to the current or future cosmere? Its probably not realistic though. Kelsier sought and eventually found the Eleventh metal as he believed it would help him to defeat the Lord Ruler. Together with his wife Mare, he led daring heists and gained great renown. . There are hints throughout Era 1 that Kelsier was still around, including Sazed flat out saying that Kelsier requested Spook be made a Mistborn. [34] This spike pins his soul to his bones. Sure, maybe it would be active for a split second when touching blood or whatever like you said,but as soon as the head passes out of his body on the other side, it wouldnt affect him anymore. Also, you talked about, as I mentioned, how you want to discuss this theory. After being betrayed by his wife Mare on a job stealing from the Lord Ruler, Kelsier is sent to the Pits of Hathsin to mine atium geodes, one of the most sought-after Allomantic metals. He forced the rest of the crew to leave, only leaving Vin. However, he is then confronted by the Lord Ruler himself. The newly installed king of Luthadel, Elend Venture, often inquires about Kelsier's traits and skills, hoping that he can learn to lead as effectively as the Survivor once did. While conversing with Harmony regarding the case, Harmony said that Wax's casual way of talking to him reminded him of Kelsier. Donald Mustard, de facto head of Fortnite, is real life friends with Brandon Sanderson, and approached him about getting characters from his books into the game. People have theorized similar about Hoid. Of course, it was nothing compared to The Hero of the Ages. Until Kelsier, a brilliant half-Skaa thief and natural leader, finds in himself the powers of a Mistborn, and turns his talents to the ultimate caper, with the Lord Ruler himself as the mark. [40] He continued training Vin and was surprised by her quick progress. I do think that an interesting (and relevant)question that is brought up by this theory though is whether or not it is possible to spike a person without killing them. Kelsier is Vins mentor and teaches her to use her Allomantic abilities. Kelsier is tall and hawk-faced and has light-blonde hair and hazel eyes;[9][10] he has a multitude of scars crossing both arms from his time in the Pits of Hathsin. The mists curled around him, blending into the tassels of his mistcloak. Allik Neverfar: A Southern Scadrian (specifically from Malwish), Allik is an airship crewman who was captured by the Set. When he arrived in Luthadel, he first reunited with his old partner and best friend Dockson. I dunno what the point of spiking him would be. Or does Sanderson have yet more secrets to reveal? I dont mean to sound aggravated or anything. Kelsier was then trained by a Mistborn named Gemmel[37] and they traveled to the far north of the Western Dominance to a city called Mantiz where Kelsier fought and killed the Mistborn Antillius Shezler. A women by the codename of Codenames Are Stupid, opens communication with the leader of the Ghostbloods by the means of a seon, which shows Kelsier on an airship travelling to Elendel. At the end of the book, Waxillium Ladrian is given a feruchemic coin by Hoid which stores the memory of a man with one eye and one hemalurgic spike, with arms covered in scars. We want to discuss this theory. Even though that is the OP, it would also be good to know where the discussion has evolved too, cause I am confused by that too. The protagonists find a temple to a man they assume is the Lord Ruler, in which is stored the allomantic and feruchemic Bands. [7] Using Allomancy he was able to escape the Pits. He also knew at that point he'd been too much of a problem for the Lord Ruler. In their hunt for a kandras missing spike, they travel to New Seran, then to Dulsing, then finally to the Sovereigns Temple. Here, they discover that Waxs sister Telsin is still alive and a member of the Set. Paalm has been working with the Set to attempt to break free from Harmonys influence. Kelsier at first hated Leras for claiming to be God, enough to instantly punch him. Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm and met Preservation. Kelsier is the younger brother of Marsh, who is disappointed at Kelsier's apparent lack of direction or purpose until Kelsier leads the skaa rebellion. Waxillium (Wax) Ladrian(fka Asinthew): One of our two primary characters. Solid in the metal you fed to Elend. 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Greetings, Cosmere chickens and Allomancers! born of the mist dagger kelsier fornite books bookmarks Creator Janseloth Designs 2 Downloads 3 Sales US$5.40 Followers 0 Follow Contact Page translated by automatic translation. We do it because we want to. The Final Empire: Mistborn Book 1. [70], Soon afterwards, Wax accessed a coppermind contained in a coin-like Southern Scadrian medallion that Hoid had given him and saw a vision of what appeared to be Kelsier's memory of discovering the Southern Scadrians hundreds of years prior. I find it odd how specific Kelsier's death is. And vapor in the air, confined to night. Shadows of Self begins with Wax now working in conjunction with the Elendel constabulary. Except if you remove the spike, you love the alteration because the Identity is not matched. Later, Kelsier invited a team of the best thieves in the city to a gathering in Camon's safe house. Epic previously teased the Mistborn crossover by tweeting out a quote . [22], Kelsier has an unknown Seon which he uses to commmunicate with his Ghostbloods on Scadrial. He lacks finesse in the external mental abilities of zinc and brass as he tends to create large changes in emotional states as opposed to the more subtle Soothing abilities of Breeze, although he can affect a relatively large mass of people. After testing her ability to burn multiple metals, Kelsier concludes that Vin was in fact a Mistborn. The Inquisitors' eyespikes poked out the back. Despite what he has told the Ghostbloods, Kelsier does not have a real avatar. The hearts of men are NOT YOUR TOYS. (The Mistborn Saga #1) by Brandon Sanderson (Goodreads Author) 4. Honestly, you should have seen it coming. He was killed by the Lord Ruler in The Final Empire, but has resurrected. On its relevancy, just because it has spawned a discussion does not make it relevant to the present and futureCosmere. Kelsier also is quite adept at pewter-dragging, as he is capable of running long distances and experiencing only minor fatigue afterwards. , After discovering the Eleventh Metal Kelsier started to prepare his plan by hiring the Kandra OreSeur. Steris Harms Ladrian: Waxs wife and Marasis half-sister. Kelsier had traveled there several years after the Catacendre, inhabiting a physical body that was spiked in the right eye, and found the Southern Scadrians slowly dying of an unexplained coldness. At the beginning of the novella, Kelsier is killed by the Lord Ruler, but refuses to pass on to the Beyond, and instead becomes trapped in the Cognitive Realm, between the Physical and Spiritual realm. TLR is like the sacrifices, while Kelsier is like the Inquisitor. Vin expected that Kelsier would use his knowledge to control her, but to her surprise, he openly explained her the eight basic metals. [55], After Sazed's Ascension and Spook's rise to political power, Kelsier began to speak with Spook about finding a way to bring himself back to the Physical Realm. [62] He has also worked together with Khriss. Mare joined him there a few months later. Kelsier fell in love with a Tineye crewmember of Dockson's retinue named Mare, whom he later married. A discussion means you have twosides, and you literally just asked one side to leave and move along.. So the head was likely stopped by the ground before leaving his body. As the Sovereign, Kelsier ruled the Southern Scadrians for a time and formed another religion that deified Metalborn, and then he left. In the hundreds of years following his death at the hands of Rashek, Kelsier was revived with the help of Spook and Harmony, becoming a messiah known as the Sovereign to the Southern Scadrians. He helped the people there survive using his knowledge of the Metallic Arts, showing them how to make metalminds to store attributes like heat in a way that could be shared with anyone. To view an earlier version of the wiki without spoilers for a book, go to the Time Machine! He was unable to do so and leaves the bit of metal for Vin, asking her in a note to figure it out. This severely angered Kelsier and crushed morale within his crew, making them feel that they wouldn't be needed now that the army had been slaughtered. Please clarify. Wayne once had a thing for her, but gave up on it after realizing that she has a girlfriend. Does anybody find it odd how specific Kelsier's death is? Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm. [42] Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the Well allowed him to become a Cognitive Shadow and resist the pull of the Beyond. As long as it provides something to think about and consider, it is worth posting. And you kind of responded with a lot of hate there. Their relationship was the sort to where Gavilar was quick to believe that he was the one who ordered his murder. On Kelsier's way back to Luthadel, he made a stop at the farm of Lord Themos Tresting to talk with the farm skaa. Elend lived with the weight of not being the man the people wanted. OreSeur incites the skaa to rebel, beginning the revolution and the overthrow of the Final Empire. [42] For a period, he did not fully respect or believe Leras's divinity, but over time he came to respect him more. Mistborn (Series) Personality Type: ENTP - 8w7 - so/sx - 873 - EIE - SCOEI - Sanguine-Choleric - EF (N) One of the most legendary men known to the Skaa. He was dead anyways. Waxillium Ladrian was a direct descendant of a close associate of Kelsier, Edgard Ladrian. Kelsier let Vin jump over the city walls as an exercise for steel and iron and was surprised how voluntarily she did it, remembering his own training. Other 3D models from the same designer Janseloth All Dockson once again became Kelsier's organizer and right hand man. The genius. What are you trying to say you think happened? ifKelsier was spiked? After Kelsier died, he became a Cognitive Shadow through the Well of Ascension, making him able to resist the pull of the Beyond. [2] Kelsier later reveals in his letter to Vin that he had intended to use the Eleventh Metal to destroy the Lord Ruler but could not discover how to use it in his fight. After Kelsier died, when Vin fought the Lord Ruler, Marsh killed the other Steel Inquisitors in Luthadel and saved Vin's life. Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the. He is confronted by a Steel Inquisitor, which he eventually manages to defeat by beheading him with the Inquisitor's own obsidian axe. Mister Suit had been captured and possibly killed, but Lady Sequence (Telsin) had escaped, and there are rumblings of more devious plots afoot something to do with the kandra who are working for the Set, and Trell. Lyndsey is a renaissance faire performer and magic wand-maker. His near invincibility as a Mistborn warrior fuels his reckless nature. , He and Hoid have a very antagonistic relationship one with one another, stretching back to when they first met and got into a violent fight. [2] He is capable of using them with a high degree of precision to control the momentum and rotation of dozens of pieces of metal simultaneously. Most of the information in this article has been culled from The Coppermind, the definitive Sanderson knowledge base on the internet. He has an imposing presence and is a natural leader, easily taking charge and swaying even the downtrodden skaa of Luthadel into joining the rebellion with his charming personality. [43], He and Gavilar were working against each other to an unknown extent. The Lord Ruler openly thanked Mare for helping his forces find the thieves, and from this, Kelsier was led to the false conclusion that Mare had purposefully betrayed him. We dont haveto do this. Khriss mentions the Ire which sets Kelsier onto his next quest of finding their base of operation. And if we ignore that as well, Kelsier's cognitive shadow doesn't seem to have any of his mistborn powers so an extra hemalurgic power would likely mean nothing at that point. [13], Kelsier is a psychopath,[14] or at least has some psychopathic tendencies. Though Vin initially is wary and suspicious of him, she eventually learns to trust him, and he becomes somewhat of a father figure to her. Kelsier's estranged brother Marsh also joins, hoping to realize his own dream of a successful Skaa Rebellion despite his disapproval of Kelsier's methods and leaving the rebellion when he had learned Kelsier and Mare had been captured. (Almost certainly on that score, lets be honest.) Marasi Colms: An Allomantic Pulser (able to slow down time in a bubble around herself) and a constable in the Elendel constabulary. Thus was born a sense of resentment for the nobility in both children, which resulted in Marsh becoming the leader of the Skaa Rebellion and Kelsier became a crewleader for a gang of Misting thieves, stealing from the noble families. The two of them have a strained relationship. In Era 2, followers of Kelsier are known as Survivorists. Steris and Marasi are both followers of this religion. And the whole point of the Cosmere Discussion forumis to discuss irrelevant theories and minutiae about the Cosmere. Even if he was though, Im kind of confused at why you think Ruin would want TLR to kill Kelsier instead of Ruin trying to have TLR kill himself somehow. [25], Before leaving them, he created the Bands of Mourning, a collection of unsealed metalminds forged together and containing all kinds of attributes in extremely large quantities. This information has the ability to potentially ruin elements of the plot for the reader. When Marsh caught Vin in Luthadel, he attacked Ruin with Preservation's power, weakening Ruin's control over Marsh just enough for Marsh to rip out Vin's earring. If you dont like or understand it, again, move along. . Don't make me come over there and slap you around again. The issue with a spear is if the metal head is all the way out of the body, and only the wooden haft is actually touching. In addition, Kelsier is a competent warrior, defeating multiple Hazekillers and Mistings while outnumbered and disarmed. See below for the whole section on Kelsier and what hes been up to behind the scenes. This thread only relatesto Mistborn, and should probably be moved to the mistborn forum,instead of the Cosmere forum, to avoid spoilers. It is a dystopian fantasy world in which magic users gain powers by swallowing. Marsh doesnt like a lot of Kelsiers actions and the way he handles the rebellion. And the whole point of the Cosmere Discussion forumis to discuss irrelevant theories and minutiae about the Cosmere. He introduced them and Vin to Yeden and explained his plan to destroy the Final Empire and kill the Lord Ruler. TLR was being spiked by the rebels and then into Kelsier. The Inquisitor and some soliders followed Camon to find his hideout to wipe out his crew, but Kelsier lured the Inquisitor away by using his own Allomancy while Dockson took out the soldiers. Despite his suspicion that Mare betrayed him, he decides to fulfill Mare's dream of overthrowing the Final Empire. He hates injustice and takes this hatred to the extreme, which originally resulted in him being unable to see good in any of the nobility. He is the central figure of the religion known as the Church of the Survivor. The man tells a villager to "survive.". Allegedly dead as of the end of TheBands of Mourning, but heyits a Cosmere novel, who knows? If he were a Radiant, there are three Orders Kelsier might belong to: Edgedancer, Dustbringer, or Willshaper. Kelsier is described to be a middle-aged man with hawkish features and light blonde hair. When Marasi Colms discovers an agent of the Ghostbloods, Moonlight, she manages to convince her to take Marasi to a warehouse in Bilming to aid in the fight against the Set. "Now, let's go jump that wall."Based on Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn novels, where Kelsier first teaches Vin about Allomancy.The boards are also available on. [6] He is stern and intense, but always smiling; another act of rebellion against the Lord Ruler's oppression. But spiking modifies the spirit web, which is the same whether your a cognitive shadow or not,and so it could have provided him benefits. One day, the men of gold and red, bearers of the final metal, will come to you. He hid the artifact away somewhere in the north and then disappeared. Speaking of the Set. Kelsier killed eight Hazekillers, stole a bag of atium, and made sure that it became known that a Mistborn had attacked a Great House, something forbidden by an unspoken agreement between the houses. [71] He was hours away near Southern Scadrian when Telsin planned to send a bomb on Elendel, and tasked Moonlight, TwinSoul, and Marasi to take care of it. It is presumed that this is the Sovereign of the Southerners, who saved their people, declared himself ruler, and reorganized the social hierarchy. His name and deeds passed into legend. [36] There he spent his time believing that his wife Mare had betrayed him to the Lord Ruler until he witnessed his wife being beaten to death by guards after she gifted her Atium bead to him. We left off in TheBands of Mourning with Steris and Wax eloping. First off, I don't mean to come off as hostile, but I am genuinely confused as to what this theory is saying. Kelsier went on to save Elend's life from an inquisitor. A natural leader, Kelsier used his charismatic personality to draw skilled and loyal Mistings to his own crew and eventually to lead a rebel army. Vin - (Adopted Daughter) (Asended/Deceased). If anything, I feel like Ruin would have tried to make the Lord Ruler take the bracers off. Started by [49], When he returned to Scadrial he found that Preservation's power was significantly weakened. He always keeps a smile on his face, because that is the one thing the Lord Ruler can't take from him. Itd be interesting if he actually HAD been spiked by the spears. [57] His bones survived the Ascension of Harmony,[58] and may have helped him regain physical form.[59]. [67] Harmony also made vague allusions to the Southern Scadrians that Kelsier once ruled as the Sovereign. you seem far away from this address uber eats kate bosworth leaked photos Despite his disapproval of Kelsiers actions, Marsh is still willing to infiltrate the Steel Ministry as part of Kelsiers plan. Personally I don't think that Ruin had left a mark. In conjunction with Southern Scadrian technology, ettmetal can reproduce Allomantic or Feruchemical powers within its vicinity. You seem to want to shut down theories that are too complex for you to understand. The Well of Ascension: The impossible task has been accomplished. Will we learn more about him in The Lost Metal? We want to discuss this theory. He has been described by Brandon Sanderson as a psychopath. To withdraw your consent, see Your Choices. If he were a Returned, his name would likely be Lifeseeker, or something along those lines. Kelsier has been confirmed by WoB not to have a spike, so although he was being influenced by Ruin's plans, Ruin was not controlling his motions and therefore he did not have the intent necessary to perform hemalurgy. This isn't really a theory, I would just like to get the ball rolling on a discussion and throw that out there. Kelsier draws up a master plan for the job, in which he designates each member of his crew to a role. His best friend, Dockson, helps him follow up on Marsh's reports of a skaa with known Allomantic powers. Even if he had said something rude, its a theory. Marasi and MeLaan rescue him, and he assists them on their quest to find the Bands of Mourning. [8] Despite Preservation not usually being able to speak into the minds of other, due to some combination of Spook being near death, having a broken soul, and believing Kelsier was a god, he was able to talk to Spook. Then he killed the noble Lord Renoux and let OreSeur impersonate him. The liquid in the pool you burned. He spun around on the rooftop, then suddenly he was there. Telsin Ladrian (aka Lady Sequence): Waxs estranged sister, and a high-ranking member of the Seteven higher than Mister Suit. Our Privacy Notice has been updated to explain how we use cookies, which you accept by continuing to use this website. "[3] He is referred to by Hoid as "the Lord of Scars. [19] After she and Elend are killed, Kelsier spoke with them before they moved on to the Beyond. Kelsier later gave this drawing to Vin. If youre looking to learn even more, I highly recommend that you check it outthere are also chapter-by-chapter recaps of the books if youd like to do a more thorough deep dive into the Mistborn series! If you dont like this theory, move on. They went to the hideout themselves just in time to save Vin from Camon. 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