(Court TV) A jury for the trial of a man accused of killing two teenage girls nearly six years ago will be MORE, By:James Howell Jr. DELPHI (WRTV) Just over a week removed from the last hearing for Richard Allen, the man charged with murder in the MORE, VIDEO: At a hearing for Delphi Murders suspect Richard Allen, a judge ruled that jurors can be brought in from another county. Judge Frances C. Gull decided at a 10-minute hearing that the high-profile trial of Richard Matthew Allen would occur in Carroll County despite his attorneys previous request to relocate the proceedings, ABC reported. Allen said he saw girls on the trails east of Freedom Bridge before he went to the Monon High Bridge to watch the fish. Mr Allen is a trained pharmaceutical technician and worked at the local CVS store in the heart of Delphi, Indiana where the two teenagers lived with their families before their brutal murders. Could it be that we are now all the way back around to our very first theory that we got torn to pieces over a hillbilly abortion? Authorities say the investigation is still underway but they plan to release additional information at a press conference on October 31, 2022. Kline has denied any involvement in the murders. He said he had worked a lot of homicide cases with police all over the country. Investigators think the bodies of slain Delphi girls, Abby Williams and Libby German, were staged and moved at the crime scene, court documents obtained by The Murder Sheet podcast revealed; the shows founders joined Nancy Grace and her expert guests on Wednesdays Crime Stories to discuss the case. Authorities say the investigation is still underwa Below is the 12 pages of court documents Allen Superior Court Judge Frances C. Gull issued to be released, including the decision to release a redacted version, murder charges and probable cause affidavit. (WRTV) On Friday, the man charged with murder stemming from the deaths of Abby Williams and Libby German MORE, VIDEO: Delphi murders suspect Richard Allen is due in court Friday, Jan. 13. Might not be too difficult to find. View in new tab here. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. That is, the facts below will be posed mostly as hypotheticals, theories, possible theories, and most of all, questions. Delphi murder victims family reveal chilling encounter with suspect Richard Allen, Monday 31 October 2022 19:10 , Rachel Sharp. Gull made the decision to publicly release redacted court documents Tuesday after hearing public arguments on the motion Nov. 22. Say they dont know him. I've read several places online that at least one photo from the crime scene was uploaded to a forum, then quickly taken down. Monday 31 October 2022 15:50 , Rachel Sharp. Lafayette Journal & Courier's Ron Wilkins contributed to this report. Listed as not a possible suspect but in fact as the main suspect in the crime. Investigators said the description of the vehicle parked at the former Child Protective Services building was similar to a 2016 black Ford Focus that Allen owned. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspect in the case and have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. AccuWeather: AM showers before a mild afternoon, CBP releases, ICE later arrests Brazilian fugitive wanted for murder who illegally entered the US, Length of Canyon boys helps hold off Seminole rally. When I will go into CVS as a customer myself, he would say do you need any help? I would be like no, Chandler Underhill, the manager of the local Brick & Mortar Pub, where he said Mr Allen was a regular, told Fox59. Our investigation revealed that both of those girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex, so getting pregnant was definitely a possible thing. Ive probably seen him. Richard Allen lived less than a five-minute drive away from where the bodies of Libby and Abby were found, in a neighborhood southwest of the Monon High Bridge. We are now stating for an absolute fact that J, or at least a photo of J, is the 19 year old Catfish Boy used to catfish a girl over four months on Snapchat. The 12 pages of court documents include the decision to release a redacted version, murder charges and probable cause affidavit. The suspected killer didnt charge them for the photos, they said. And police cadaver dogs absolutely searched that barn. A self-identified inside source spoke out from a fake Facebook account under the name \"Leigh Kerr.\" This individual provided the Delphi Murder leaks and released new information on the case; however, these details haven't been corroborated.Many persons of interest have been named in this case: Charles Eldridge, James Chadwell, and Paul Etter. Richard Allen was charged with two counts of murder on Friday and has pleaded not guilty. (AP) Jurors atthe trialof anIndiana man accused of killing two teenage girlsnearly six years ago MORE, By:James Howell Jr. CARROLL COUNTY, Ind. Anybody would tell you that,resident A.J. Investigators released a grainy image from the video and a chilling audio of the man telling the two girls: Go down the hill., This grainy image was taken on Libbys phone on the trail the day the girls went missing. Is there a possibility that J and Misters Q and P got together and decided to terrorize this the girl into aborting the child? Police have renewed their efforts and released new information to the public to help finally solve this cold case.PATREON https://www.patreon.com/pandox_yt TWITTER https://twitter.com/PandoxYT TWITCH https://www.twitch.tv/superbowlpantsIn 2017, Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, hiked the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, Indiana. DELPHI, Ind. One of the witnesses said the man had something covering his mouth. Indiana Lt Governor Suzanne Crouch has spoken out about the development in the Delphi case. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Well, there are two separate crime scenes. Also, there were what appeared to be memorial flowers left inside the barn. 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Authorities conducted a nationwide search and received over 26k tips in the first year, but with scarce evidence, the killer was never found. Well, that has nothing to do with one of the men having sex with a 14 year old girl like everyone thinks. Could it be that these three young men, J and Misters P and Q, set up that weird bizarro crime scene beforehand with the stuffed bear, the dolls, the sheet with the smiley face, the crucifix, on and on, to lure the 14 year old girl there to terrorize her and threaten her to have the abortion? Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. (AP) An Indiana judge imposed a gag order on Friday in the case of a man charged in thenotorious slayings of two MORE, VIDEO: Update on Delphi Murders suspect Richard Allen. Another witness said she was on the trails Feb. 13, 2017, with video from the Hoosier Harvestore confirming her vehicle near the entrance at 1:46 p.m. She told investigators she saw four girls walking on the bridge as she was driving underneath on her way to park. However, investigators have not said what they're looking for in the riverbed or how it could be connected to the Delphi murders case. What if that were true and not just an idle rumor? The trial for the suspect accused of murdering two girls in Delphi, Indiana, nearly six years ago will use jurors bused in from another county, a judge ruled Friday. He has been incredibly helpful to us. Youre welcome to join our group if you want to and can spare the change. Do you think the 14 yr old had the procedure on her to remove Fs DNA, the coroner would have explored that as the father would be a suspect. WebIt was my understanding that a local news channel had posted 1 crime scene photo to their Facebook page, and that it was of clothing in the creek. Instead statements are posed as hypotheticals, theories, possible theories, and above all questions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJpL25ygt8c, Mr. F the 20 year old boy who impregnated the 14 year old. Further, they arent very nice about it lately. There were many grown men at those parties, including many who may have had no qualms about having sex with a 13-14 year old girl. So when I say, we, I am saying this is what the whole group thinks. Ourreview ofthe mattershows FBI employees correctly followed established procedures.". That came to us either from rumors, our own investigations, good sources other than the police, or simply our own hypotheses. Example video title will go here for this video. Seventh, We are not referring to either girl by name below, however, there seems to be some confusion about which girl was the focus of the crime. Our source was adamant about that. We got him. Investigators believe Allen was not seen on the trail after 2:13 p.m. on Feb. 13, 2017, because he was in the woods with German and Williams. Local residents reacted with shock when news broke on Friday of Richard Allens arrest on Friday, saying that he seemed like a normal guy. We believe he met criteria for Conduct Disorder as a youth and may have trended into Antisocial Personal Disorder as an adult. An affidavit unsealed by a judge earlier She said he had dark and evil eyes. I think you donated with a different email but I just approved you. The witness said she didn't see any other adults than the man on the bridge. All Rights Reserved. The photo apparently featured the coroner with the bodies of the two girls. (11/29/22) MORE, VIDEO: Prosecutors in the case of murdered teen girls Abby Williams and Libby German say defendant Richard Allen may have had an accomplice. The trail is located in a secluded area of Delphi, Indiana, and spans eight miles of densely populated woods. First of all, all of this information under the Keys to the Crime and the Motive heading, except for some, came from the police. A lot of people are saying this. Press J to jump to the feed. She was in the early stages of pregnancy. Kelsi German, sister of Libby German, tweeted on Monday after the police press conference: We got him. The family of one of the Delphi victims has revealed that they had an encounter with the man now accused of her murder, as they accused him of hiding in plain sight the whole time. I received more abuse for this statement than for anything else I wrote about this crime. This is an active and ongoing investigation. Will it lead to solving the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German?0:00 The Delphi Murders5:40 The Investigation9:42 Leigh Kerr12:27 The Criminal ProfileSOURCES: https://pastebin.com/LZjy3tHr#truecrime #DelphiMurders #AbbyandLibby But maybe they have cracked. Details about the scene have been withheld, but investigators were disturbed by what they found. Fourth, The term guardian below refers to either a mother, a grandmother, or a grandfather. October 28th was the day.. A witness told investigators he saw a small, dark-colored SUV parked on the side of the old Child Protective Service building Feb. 13, 2017, and believed the vehicle was backed in to conceal the license plate. The paragraph below is completely hypothetical. The serial killer expert lives near me. On the wall behind him is a police sketch released by Indiana State Police in 2019 of the man suspected of murdering the teenage best friends. A 50-year-old local man has finally been charged with the 2017 Delphi murders marking the first step towards justice for teenage best friends Libby German and Abby Williams who were brutally killed more than five years ago. What if perhaps Mr. F was pressuring the girl to abort the baby, and the girl was balking? This double homicide occurred in 2017, but it is still unsolved. A scalpel was also found at the scene. VIDEO: Bond hearing for Richard Allen is et for Feb. 17. Monday 31 October 2022 21:50 , Rachel Sharp. Google The Delphi murders/reddit/images. The murderer was or is definitely local or at least knew the trail. The walkway they crossed was pretty damaged and he must have had prior experience of walking it, as he crossed it pretty quickly. Weve dumped the Mears Barn for now. He has a criminal record mostly for repeated drunk driving offenses. Police confirmed that the case was a double homicide, but have not revealed how the girls died or what evidence they collected. Indiana State Police announced at a press conference on Monday morning, Chicago police chief, U.S. attorney resign after Mayor Lori Lightfoot loses reelection. I distinctly remember what looked like blood stains on a section of wood fencing/the ground inside the barn and possible blood on a pile of hay. Allen, 50, made headlines in October when he was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the February 2017 deaths of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13. Yes, although I would call him the 20 year old man. A vehicle that resembled Allen's 2016 Ford Focus was also seen on video going west on County Road 300 North at 1:27 p.m. Allen was again interviewed by investigators on Oct. 13, 2022. Police located their bodies at 12pm the following day near Deer Creek, about a half mile from Monon High Bridge. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. Then, they recorded a video, which gave police their best lead to the killer: audio and video evidence.A search party organized by Sheriff Leazanby and the Indiana Police Department began that evening, but the bodies of the two girls weren't found until the next day, February 14, 2017. The implication that an alleged clerical error by an FBI employee caused years of delay in identifying thisdefendantis misleading. But definitely I dont know him., Monday 31 October 2022 18:10 , Rachel Sharp. He reminds the assembled media that when someone is arrested they are considered innocent until proven guilty. Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off at the Delphi Historic Trails at about 1pm on February 13, 2017. The thing is that the composites of the Catfish Boy and the young man seen at the bridge above are almost perfect matches of each other. Officials would not rule out the possibility that other individuals were also involved in the brutal murders of Libby German and Abby Williams and vowed that if the investigation leads them to other suspects they will also face charges. pic.twitter.com/jtPz879fnH, Emily Longnecker (@EmilyWTHR) October 31, 2022, Monday 31 October 2022 16:50 , Rachel Sharp, Monday 31 October 2022 16:30 , Rachel Sharp. She shared the mugshot of the man accused of killing her sister and the police press release. Libbys grandfather told reporters on Monday that his granddaughters accused killer had been hiding in plain sight the whole time. In an interview with police, Allen said he never let anyone borrow or use his pistol, according to the affidavit. No comments for now, any questions please refer to the Carroll county prosecutor's office. It also states the murderer "staged" the girls' bodies after killing them, although how they were allegedly staged has not been released. NOTE: The probable cause affidavit refers to the girls only as "Victim 1" and "Victim 2" throughout. Could that be the nature of the falling out with this male guardian and Mr. X? I think there's one piece. Click here to read the entire document if you cannot view it below. And I think we're one piece away one piece.". Also, one of the nations top experts on serial killers has expressed interest in joining us in trying to solve this crime, as has a female homicide detective who ran an 80-person unit in France. We know which we are talking about in every instance, but we are making the girls indistinguishable out of respect for them and due to endless attacks that our reporting is not sensitive to the girls, who, in all honesty, are dead anyway and could care less what anyone says about them. Investigators previously shared the audio and video released to the public came from Libby German's phone. He again told them he was on the trail Feb. 13, 2017. He is listed by police as a possible suspect in the crime. Now, 10 months later, Mr Allen has been arrested and charged with Libby and Abbys murders. I had the smiley face for McCain Signature Smiles that I happened to run on to at my grocery store, and for the non-secular I remember Carter showing a picture of a person in white sheets with a turbine and felt there might have been a quaran left there too. Officials from multiple law enforcement agencies including Indiana State Police, the Carroll County Sheriffs Office, Carroll County Prosecutors Office and the US Marshal Service as well as members of the victims families are scheduled to hold a press conference shortly. Until now. Is it possible that LE could be looking into these three young men as suspects, but in this case a lesser quality of suspects, possible suspects, too? Kline was arrested in 2020 and was charged with child pornography and child exploitation in another case and has pleaded not guilty to both charges. How about getting your moneys worth? This is why. The source throws a boxful of pieces of a jigsaw puzzle at us. First of all, we are going to need to hide the names of some people. That was supposedly from a rap song. October 28th was the day, she tweeted. The 14 year old had a cousin, M., who was taking her to bonfire parties where there was a lot of drugs and drinking for a few years from 12-14. (12/1/22) MORE, By ARLEIGH RODGERS and RICK CALLAHAN Associated Press/Report for America INDIANAPOLIS (AP) An unspent bullet found between the bodies of two teenage girls slain MORE, VIDEO: Court documents tying Richard Allen to the 2017 murders of Indiana teen girls Abby Williams and Libby German have been released. Some of us call the source The Riddler in reference to the Batman show. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Libby German, 14, and Abby Wiliams, 13, went missing on 13 February 2017 after they set off on a hike along the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, Indiana. Monday 31 October 2022 14:40 , Oliver O'Connell. He is closely associated with one of the families. What we know and don't after Delphi information release, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. The trial for the suspect accused of murdering two girls in Delphi, Indiana, nearly six years ago will use jurors bused in from another county, a judge ruled Friday. Delphi resident, age 49 at the time of the crime, otherwise unremarkable person. According to WTHR journalist Emily Longnecker, Libbys grandparents Mike and Becky Patty recall Mr Allen processing photos for them at the store. Shocking New Rumor Adds More Weight to the Connection between the Delphi and Evansdale Murders As we noted in previous posts, observation of the blown Someone else might have mentioned this, I am new to the posts. And is it possible that in killing these deer, he had a lot of experience with gutting deer, which involves removing their abdominal contents. The Delphi murders have confounded investigators in the five years since Williams and German's bodies were found and in 2018, the head of the Indiana State Police Office, Doug Carter, told the IndyStar that he believed they were "one piece of the puzzle away from figuring out who this individual is. As members of the Carroll County community, we remain devastated by these murders and our hearts go out to the German and Williams families, the company said, per local outlet WRTV. Its been more than five years since best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, set off on a walk in their hometown of Delphi, Indiana never to be seen alive again. Mike and Becky Patty, the grandparents of victim Libby German, told reporters after Mondays press conference that they remembered suspected killer Richard Allen serving them one time in the local CVS where he worked. He may have helped set up the crime scene, but we have no evidence of that. German's older sister, Kelsi posted on Twitter on October 28, writing: "Just know how grateful I am for all of you. Despite the arrest of Mr Allen, officials stress the investigation is still ongoing and that they will keep the tip line open on both phone and email, encouraging more members of the public to come forward with any additional information. I just donated! For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, Abigail Joyce Williams was one of the two girls killed, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). A MAN was reportedly arrested in connection to the murders of 14-year-old Liberty German and 13-year-old Abigail Williams who were killed in 2017. Monday 31 October 2022 14:14 , Oliver O'Connell. INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) After learning this week that the judge in the Delphi murders case appointed two public defenders for suspect Richard Allen, I-Team Members of the public were urged to continue to submit tips not only about Richard Allen but about any other information regarding the case. Indiana State Police said that the briefing will begin promptly at 10am EST. Hes named Mr. F as in Mr. Father. One of my servers was telling me that he wouldnt speak much.. *, We got him: Delphi victims sister reacts as Richard Allen charged, Monday 31 October 2022 16:10 , Rachel Sharp. He is due back in court in January 202 for a pre-trial hearing. But the podcasters said it's located just a few miles from the family home of 28-year-old Kegan Kline, who was arrested two years ago and charged with child pornography and child exploitation in a separate case to which he's pleaded not guilty. If not, I get it, believe me! Hi, Robert. We have no idea why he was fired or why the apartment was searched. "And then, of course, weaponry that could have been used in the Delphi murders and any other evidence that could tie a killer to the scene or of the crime, essentially.". Monday 31 October 2022 14:05 , Oliver O'Connell. The following information did not come to us from the police. He described the Scripps Police in Indiana have charged a 50-year-old local man with the 2017 Delphi murders more than five years after the bodies of best friends Libby German and Abby Williams were found close to a wooded trail. Just days before the podcast hosts say that river search began, a court document obtained by ABC News shows that Kline was temporarily moved from the custody of his local authorities to the hands of Indiana State Police, the lead investigators in the murders of Abby and Libby. People are told to contact Indiana State Police with information not only about Mr Allen but about any other information regarding the case. CARROLL COUNTY, Ind. All he had to do was remove the placenta. Mr Allen, 50, has pleaded not guilty to the charges and is being held without bond. One of the witnesses described the man as "kind of creepy." Best of all, much of our information is via solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. The witness said she also saw a man matching the one in German's video. Thank you for this comment. She continued to urge anyone with information about the case to submit a tip to abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or 765-822-3535. While trial preparations are underway, Gull also noted that the scheduled March start will likely be delayed due to the extraordinarily voluminous discovery material that has to be turned over to the defense. All rights reserved. On the other hand, he is very charming, but most of these types are like that. If the source was giving us nonsense and lies, the police would not care at all. I don't think there's multiple pieces of the puzzle. However, a female search party member has stated that one girls abdominal cavity was excavated. The police think he is the man who actually conducted the murders, and they also think he is the man on the bridge. Its a small county. The investigation is far from complete, state police superintendent Doug Carter said at a news conference on Monday as he urged the community to come forward with more information. Mike Patty told reporters after Mondays press conference that the family does not know suspect Richard Allen but most likely encountered him in their small town of 3,000 people. Indiana State Police announced at a press conference on Monday morning that Richard Matthew Allen, a local Delphi man and married father to an adult daughter, was charged with two counts of murder on Friday. Both of those girls were growing up way, way too fast. She acknowledged, however, that it would be difficult, if not impossible to find Carroll County jurors who were not impacted by the tragic case, and agreed to bus a jury in from another county. WebThe unsolved murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams have disturbed and shocked the nation. I guess we are supposed to put the puzzle together. She chased him off her property. A lot of the information below will be stated in a similar way as it came to us from our source. Mr Underhill said that Mr Allen always seemed normal when he would come into the pub where he works. One was involved in the homicide. Richard Matthew Allen, from Delphi, Indiana, was taken into custody on Wednesday (26 October) and booked into Carroll County Jail. The pair of eighth-graders spent the afternoon posting photos of their journey on Facebook. Im ready to learn more info. Well, I do have a Journalism degree, so I know what I am doing. The sister of one of the Delphi victims has welcomed the news that a suspect has finally been charged with the murders more than five years after her sister and her best friend were found dead after going on a hike. Mr Allen, 50, is a trained pharmaceutical technician and worked at the local CVS store in the heart of the small town, home to only around 3,000 residents. Cain said: "A lot of technology comes up in this case of devices that are being used to store child sexual abuse materials or communications with underage girls. An Indiana man accused of killing two teenage girls in the infamous Delphi murder case was linked to the crime through an unspent bullet found at the scene, newly revealed documents show. Law enforcement will not reveal what the evidence was that led to Mr Allens arrest per a court order. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. They both turned ashen white in the face and didnt say anything. There is a crime scene photo of a scalpel at the scene which we are trying to get a hold of. I am very sorry for the horrible details I will lay out here, but remember the reaction of LE to this crime at the first press conference and how shaken up they were? Therefore, we will refer to the 14 year old and the 13 year old. Monday 31 October 2022 20:50 , Rachel Sharp. Richard Allen court documents:What we know and don't after Delphi information release. 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